Today, I want to risk a deeper look into L657+. (2. D. Z93+ L342+ L657+ Central&Southwest Asia). Here are the Top30 matches of the L657+ Modal haplotype:
Obviously, the L657+ cluster is not narrow at all. The closest L657+ individuals to the L657+ Modal haplotype are from the Arabian peninsula (one exception: N2358 Philip, Ayroor, Kerala, India).
L657+ shows high variance, a lot of L657+ are not in the Top30 matches of the modal haplotype. For some of those we have additional information about the location:
M6986 (#52),
M7443 (#61),
N102178 (#74), Pakistan
N22414 (#80), India
M6736 (#81), Iran
M7417 (#82),
U2810 (#83), Pakistan
112208 (#94), Kazakhstan
M6740 (#95), Saudi-Arabia
216619 (#104), Pakistan
N12617 (#119), India
U2321 (#128) India
I want to discuss the bolded ones a bit.
N102178 (Mehrdad, Lahore/Pakistan).
N102178 is clear outlier.
N22414 (Luddan Singh Ranu, 1800s, Manki, Punjab/India)
N22414 shows some similarities to U2321 who is also from Punjab/India.
M6736 (Iran)
M6736 is similar to L657+ individuals from the Arabian peninsula (one exception: N2358 Philip, Ayroor, Kerala, India).
U2810 (Tharn Bajwa 1890 Pakistan)
U2810 shows small similarities to L657+ individuals from the Arabian peninsula
112208 is a clear outlier.
M6740 (Mecca/Saudi Arabia)
M6740 shows small similarities to L657+ individuals from the Arabian peninsula.
216619 (K Khan Qureshi, c.1830-1900 Pakistan)
216619 is a clear outlier. Interestingly, he shows some similarities to one individual, 209438 from Bitlis close to Lake Van. Unfortunately 209438 did not test for L657.
N12617 (Jagarnath Dixit ca 1490-1550 India)
N12617 is a clear outlier.
U2321 (Amar Sandhu, Jalandhar, Punjab, India)
U2321 shows some similarities to N22414 who is also from Punjab/India (see above).
Conclusions:
1. The L657+ group does not show a clear narrow cluster when looking at Y-STR67 values.
2. Just the individuals from the Arabian peninsula show a cluster.
3. The L657+ individuals of the "Al Tamimi" and the "Al Rass" family (Saudi-Arabia) seem to be very closely related.
4. The high number of "Al Rass"/"Al Tamimi" data in the FTDNA L657+ group (5/22) is shifting the modal haplotype towards Saudi Arabia. Thus, I am proposing an adjusted modal haplotype for L657+.
Changes are listed below:
| DYS391 | DYS389i | DYS389ii | Y-GATA-H4 | DYS607 | CDYa | CDYb | DYS534 | DYS444 | |
| FTDNA | 10 | 13 | 30 | 11 | 17 | 36 | 40 | 13 | 14 |
| Adjusted | 11 | 14 | 31 | 12 | 16 | 35 | 41 | 14 | 13 |
Here are the Top30 matches of the adjusted L657+ Modal haplotype:
Now, the closest to modal haplotype is the L657+ individual N2358 Philip, Ayroor, Kerala, India followed by L657+ individuals from the Arabian peninsula ("Al Rass"/"Al Tamimi" families).
Still, a lot of L657+ are not in the Top30 matches of the modal haplotype but they moved up in the ranking (new number in italic):
M6986 (#52==>#39),
M7443 (#61==>#5),
N102178 (#74==>#54), Pakistan
N22414 (#80==>#9), India
M6736 (#81==>#37), Iran
M7417 (#82==>#59),
U2810 (#83==>#105), Pakistan
112208 (#94==>#46), Kazakhstan
M6740 (#95==>#62), Saudi-Arabia
216619 (#104==>#110), Pakistan
N12617 (#119==>#123), India
U2321 (#128==>#67) India
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