tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1082727841026025895.post8772771023732043429..comments2024-02-07T00:13:49.964-08:00Comments on KurdishDNA: R1a tree Palistohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05633640722962576468noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1082727841026025895.post-79427201070442209152013-12-20T15:56:20.067-08:002013-12-20T15:56:20.067-08:00L664+ is grey, mostly N-W Europe.
http://i1127.pho...L664+ is grey, mostly N-W Europe.<br />http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l625/ft-d/maps/2A_zpsb715c276.jpgPalistohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05633640722962576468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1082727841026025895.post-19533836462051062962013-12-19T21:47:38.681-08:002013-12-19T21:47:38.681-08:00Interesting. The North-Western in grey is N-W Euro...Interesting. The North-Western in grey is N-W Europe I take it?Kapakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07370390396474454072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1082727841026025895.post-63367419198844168922013-06-09T16:51:55.085-07:002013-06-09T16:51:55.085-07:00This is not only a work of science, it is a work o...This is not only a work of science, it is a work of art. B K Nelson, PhD.Lord Ladehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01672513896680945375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1082727841026025895.post-81327675970522374902013-05-25T00:05:04.236-07:002013-05-25T00:05:04.236-07:00Edit: I implemented some more SNP data to further ...Edit: I implemented some more SNP data to further improve outcome; tree looks better now.Palistohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05633640722962576468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1082727841026025895.post-88200653395930699222013-05-23T11:14:06.297-07:002013-05-23T11:14:06.297-07:00Thanks, Maju, it took me quiet a while.
Exactly b...Thanks, Maju, it took me quiet a while.<br /><br />Exactly because of the reasons you pointed out I try not to draw too many conclusions of the tree. I let the trees speak for themselves, and most of my comments are primarily descriptive.<br /><br />I try to focus on individuals with STR111 data, only very few West, Central and South Asians have done that. Due to the high number of Europeans and low number of Asians in this data set the tree is shifting from Z93 towards Z283. This can be seen in the age estimates based on the tree (Z283: 5973 years; Z93: 5792 years) vs age estimates based on the actual observed STR variability (Z283: 6752 years; Z93: 6980 years).<br /><br />Although the Asian side of R1a is heavily underrepresented in public data sets we already know the following:<br />From the SNP distribution of the "FTDNA R1a1a and subclades project" we know that the oldest branches of R1a were also found in West Asia.<br />http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l625/ft-d/1O-R1a.jpg<br />We also know that one of the oldest branches of the "European" Z283 branch were found in West Asia (including one individual with paternal Kurdish ancestry).<br />http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l625/ft-d/maps/z2832.jpg<br /><br />I believe that rigorous SNP testing of West Asians will lead to many surprises in the R1a tree. Unfortunately, right now most Asian R1a tested individuals are from the Arabian peninsula that doesn't show much diversity.Palistohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05633640722962576468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1082727841026025895.post-57830240624851217482013-05-23T09:16:30.063-07:002013-05-23T09:16:30.063-07:00This is a massive, almost monumental work, which I...This is a massive, almost monumental work, which I would like to thank you for. <br /><br />However I wonder if any conclusions can be drawn at all, considering that almost all samples are European (I could just identify a handful of West Asians and a single Indian individual, all concentrated in the Z93+ zone).Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.com